While we finish putting together the rest of Israel Keyes Life in Detail, we thought some of the files that wouldn’t make it into the documentary itself might be of interest to you.
No one has ever released them, we got them unexpectedly from Texas. We're going through them right now to use them in the final episode of the documentary and they'll be released with the rest of the evidence we've collected once that's done and we've fully sorted through all of it to get it organized.
I wonder if Melissa Moore has ever tried reaching out to Laney? (Daughter of the happy face killer) who has been very public about reconciling the fact that she is the daughter of a serial killer. She also aims to bring the families of serial killers together to support each other
That's an interesting question. Family members of serial killers are a unique group of secondary victims that likely have unique needs compared to the families of the victims targeted by serial killers. That seems like a worthwhile effort.
Yes indeed, thanks for sharing these. At the very least, the dates of the journal entries and the days referenced in them confirm time periods when Keyes was actually in Anchorage working for a full day/days far more effectively than phone pings, financial transactions, or (especially) his own work calendar entries/vague dates on invoices, etc. Same concept obviously applies if there are any mentions of times he spent away from home and dates associated - could go a long way to help with ruling him in or out on the long list of cases where he's been suspected over the years.
It's also interesting to hear his demeanor in the interactions with the TX Ranger vs his later interactions with Anchorage PD/FBI. Looking forward to the continuation of your documentary!
That's a very astute observation... we talked about this privately just yesterday, and will be going through them all more closely to check dates and relevant details once we get the second episode of the documentary complete.
Which we think we'll have done in the next few days as long as we can get some solid editing time in without life getting in the way. 😄
Thank you for your support! Sharing facts and evidence is what journalism is supposed to be; even more so now in this new era where independent journalists can develop platforms where all manner of media can be shared in direct relationships with the people who are invested in the truth.
Definitely a lot of interesting info to unpack here.
I do wonder if Laney could offer more insight into his travels, she may unknowingly have a memory in relation to a hidden cache, victim’s location etc. She’s certainly not under any obligation to speak to anyone, but something I’ve pondered.
As for TCBS, it’s never sat right with me he changed her name to Sarah, nor when Josh bungled Kim’s interviews. Nor his high horse of being “moral and ethical” and then planning Israel Keyes Wine Tasting getaways.
There's no way to fully understand just how terribly Kimberly was treated by Anchorage PD without listening to those interviews. The sheer arrogance and condescending attitude of the detective are beyond disrespectful - particularly when contrasted with her clumsy & amateurish attempts at sweet-talking to get info out of Keyes - just, wow. An epic failure at "good cop" and "bad cop" alike.
And yet... Kim somehow managed to retain her composure throughout, despite the circumstances of her entire life as she knew it being so abruptly dumped into nightmarish chaos. I can't begin to imagine what that must have felt like, and I'm in awe of how much strength and grace she displayed. It would be doing her a further disservice, in my opinion, to not listen for yourself.
In the defense of APD, although I agree that they were initially hostile towards her, given the position they were in of looking for a kidnap victim and not knowing what her level of involvement may have been...
At the time they also believed the abduction was related to drugs, and her status as a nurse made them suspicious about her potential involvement in a drug ring that turned out not to exist.
Also, when your housemate and boyfriend turns out to be a serial killer, I think it might be reasonable for the police to apply an aggressive amount of pressure to find the truth.
Fair point - 20/20 hindsight definitely gives a different perspective, especially with so much speculation about Kim and what she knew/didn't know for years.
It just seemed like so much overdone attitude even after it was becoming pretty clear she was clueless. But then again - so was everyone who knew Keyes at that point, evidently. And over a decade later there's still so much left unknown. So, always appreciate openness to sharing information without sensationalizing it.
Part of the upcoming debut of our new podcast will be a discussion about the very few things we held back, why we chose to do so, and an invitation to tell us whether we made the right decision or not.
Not to put words in anyone's mouth but I took her to be speaking generally to the importance of us sharing them or of them being shared at all, not whether or not you had personally heard them. I think she was agreeing with your take.
Yep - spot on... "listen for yourself" was absolutely meant in a general sense, the concept of hearing only a summary/commentary from a third party just doesn't sit right with me.
We totally agree. 50, even 20 years ago, that kind of arrangement made sense. There just wasn't a way to deliver that kind of primary evidence.
There's no excuse with today's technology, and the ethics of doing so are very clear. The public interest comes before the privacy of people who are still alive and well. Very paternalistic to suggest otherwise.
Keyes most likely kept her away from his criminal activities if for nothing else due to his experiences getting in trouble when he was a child as a result of involving his siblings in his activities, but anything is possible.
I can't wait to discuss the podcast stuff on our new podcast. Talk about a lot to unpack. You listed 3 things and it barely scratches the surface...
Hello,
How can we listen to the entire interview of the clips above?
Thank you.
No one has ever released them, we got them unexpectedly from Texas. We're going through them right now to use them in the final episode of the documentary and they'll be released with the rest of the evidence we've collected once that's done and we've fully sorted through all of it to get it organized.
I wonder if Melissa Moore has ever tried reaching out to Laney? (Daughter of the happy face killer) who has been very public about reconciling the fact that she is the daughter of a serial killer. She also aims to bring the families of serial killers together to support each other
That's an interesting question. Family members of serial killers are a unique group of secondary victims that likely have unique needs compared to the families of the victims targeted by serial killers. That seems like a worthwhile effort.
Yes indeed, thanks for sharing these. At the very least, the dates of the journal entries and the days referenced in them confirm time periods when Keyes was actually in Anchorage working for a full day/days far more effectively than phone pings, financial transactions, or (especially) his own work calendar entries/vague dates on invoices, etc. Same concept obviously applies if there are any mentions of times he spent away from home and dates associated - could go a long way to help with ruling him in or out on the long list of cases where he's been suspected over the years.
It's also interesting to hear his demeanor in the interactions with the TX Ranger vs his later interactions with Anchorage PD/FBI. Looking forward to the continuation of your documentary!
That's a very astute observation... we talked about this privately just yesterday, and will be going through them all more closely to check dates and relevant details once we get the second episode of the documentary complete.
Which we think we'll have done in the next few days as long as we can get some solid editing time in without life getting in the way. 😄
THANK YOU GUYS FOR SHARING THE INFO WITH US!!!!!!
Thank you for your support! Sharing facts and evidence is what journalism is supposed to be; even more so now in this new era where independent journalists can develop platforms where all manner of media can be shared in direct relationships with the people who are invested in the truth.
Definitely a lot of interesting info to unpack here.
I do wonder if Laney could offer more insight into his travels, she may unknowingly have a memory in relation to a hidden cache, victim’s location etc. She’s certainly not under any obligation to speak to anyone, but something I’ve pondered.
As for TCBS, it’s never sat right with me he changed her name to Sarah, nor when Josh bungled Kim’s interviews. Nor his high horse of being “moral and ethical” and then planning Israel Keyes Wine Tasting getaways.
There's no way to fully understand just how terribly Kimberly was treated by Anchorage PD without listening to those interviews. The sheer arrogance and condescending attitude of the detective are beyond disrespectful - particularly when contrasted with her clumsy & amateurish attempts at sweet-talking to get info out of Keyes - just, wow. An epic failure at "good cop" and "bad cop" alike.
And yet... Kim somehow managed to retain her composure throughout, despite the circumstances of her entire life as she knew it being so abruptly dumped into nightmarish chaos. I can't begin to imagine what that must have felt like, and I'm in awe of how much strength and grace she displayed. It would be doing her a further disservice, in my opinion, to not listen for yourself.
In the defense of APD, although I agree that they were initially hostile towards her, given the position they were in of looking for a kidnap victim and not knowing what her level of involvement may have been...
At the time they also believed the abduction was related to drugs, and her status as a nurse made them suspicious about her potential involvement in a drug ring that turned out not to exist.
Also, when your housemate and boyfriend turns out to be a serial killer, I think it might be reasonable for the police to apply an aggressive amount of pressure to find the truth.
I do agree they were very harsh though.
To be fair, Kim came out guns blazing (no pun intended) in her 2nd interview
Fair point - 20/20 hindsight definitely gives a different perspective, especially with so much speculation about Kim and what she knew/didn't know for years.
It just seemed like so much overdone attitude even after it was becoming pretty clear she was clueless. But then again - so was everyone who knew Keyes at that point, evidently. And over a decade later there's still so much left unknown. So, always appreciate openness to sharing information without sensationalizing it.
Part of the upcoming debut of our new podcast will be a discussion about the very few things we held back, why we chose to do so, and an invitation to tell us whether we made the right decision or not.
Why are you implying I haven’t heard Kim’s actual interviews?
I could have worded that better, I suppose...apologies for any confusion.
Not to put words in anyone's mouth but I took her to be speaking generally to the importance of us sharing them or of them being shared at all, not whether or not you had personally heard them. I think she was agreeing with your take.
Yep - spot on... "listen for yourself" was absolutely meant in a general sense, the concept of hearing only a summary/commentary from a third party just doesn't sit right with me.
We totally agree. 50, even 20 years ago, that kind of arrangement made sense. There just wasn't a way to deliver that kind of primary evidence.
There's no excuse with today's technology, and the ethics of doing so are very clear. The public interest comes before the privacy of people who are still alive and well. Very paternalistic to suggest otherwise.
Keyes most likely kept her away from his criminal activities if for nothing else due to his experiences getting in trouble when he was a child as a result of involving his siblings in his activities, but anything is possible.
I can't wait to discuss the podcast stuff on our new podcast. Talk about a lot to unpack. You listed 3 things and it barely scratches the surface...